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newlittlebopper
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 5:23 pm    Post subject: Offers & rewards Reply with quote

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in these times where money is very much in short supply i wondered what dance companies and organizations give as away of incentives to help people with less funds available to still get out there and have a great time Question.

I ask because it seems that some companies still ask alot and don't seem to give as much back.

I'm sure there are organizations out there that do offer lots of incentives that nobody knows about.

so any of you dance companies out there got any special offers. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a matter of fact I actually had an email from 'The Thing' only today, saying you pay for two and get one free in the same week and that their classes are only £6 each another incentive: every time you introduce new person to class night then you get in free. They also have stamp cards and each time you go it gets stamped once you get 9 you get in free. Have a look on their web site.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I think that the cost of an evenings dancing still represents really good value for money in most instances. When I started attending modern jive classes in London back in 1991, the cost was £4 for midweek classes and today you can still attend for between £6-7 locally, which I think is not bad at all.

However, we certainly appreciate that money is tight and that people have to watch where, and how much they choose to spend on social activities. I think alot of MJ organisations do try to help out, with various offers and incentives. At Ceroc Fever we have introduced the following:

Both the 'Jive Jukebox' and 'Meltdown' freestyles at Minstead are only £5 if you arrive before 8.30pm (£8 after)
Gods of Thunder freestyles at Barton Hall are £7 if you pre-register or £5 if booked and paid for at the previous event - usual price is £8.
During the week we offer 6 classes at half price for new beginners at all our venues.

We have always operated a discount for regular attendees where you can buy 10 entries for £60 and we also issue various discounts & free offers to members who have registered their e-mail details with us. We hope this helps and that modern jive evenings represent good value for money, whilst being really good for you! Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Olly wrote:
At Ceroc Fever we have introduced the following:

Both the 'Jive Jukebox' and 'Meltdown' freestyles at Minstead are only £5 if you arrive before 8.30pm (£8 after)
Gods of Thunder freestyles at Barton Hall are £7 if you pre-register or £5 if booked and paid for at the previous event - usual price is £8.
During the week we offer 6 classes at half price for new beginners at all our venues.

We have always operated a discount for regular attendees where you can buy 10 entries for £60 and we also issue various discounts & free offers to members who have registered their e-mail details with us. We hope this helps and that modern jive evenings represent good value for money, whilst being really good for you! Smile

Richard O


Personally I feel these kind of Ceroc 'incentives and savings' are just the sort of 'savings' we get from the government. They are made in such a way that few people qualify for them. £5 before 8.30 though yep that's good Smile

I recently went along to a Ceroc night and introduced someone new to Ceroc, I happily piped up that they were new to Ceroc and we got stung for an ADDITIONAL £2 !!!!! apparently it was for the membership card (something none of us wants) and for the DVD (again not something we want) Ceroc incentives? Nah complete turn off and dis-incentive cons Sorry

Value for money to me is to be found at the smaller venues such as The Thing and Jive n Kickin, I've never had a bad night at any of the ones I've attended and to me that's the biggest incentive and reward. Go enough times and bring people along and you get in free too. But you know what, I've never claimed a free entry yet to them and I don't begrudge it as it's always been good value for money at these friendly venues.

Reading back over what I've written I'm sounding like some sort of sales person here for these venues but I really and truly don't have any connection with them other than I just enjoy going to them.



Oh something I will raise though is drinks. I find this a pretty big issue where some venues you get ripped off for something which is essential particularly on the hot nights we are having now. I know this is something outside of control of most of the Jive organisations but I'm sure all of us would appreciate some help on this essential.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come on, qdos, I think you are being a bit harsh. The Ceroc Fever incentives, for that is what they are, are very welcome. If you are cost conscious then making the effort to turn up a bit earlier would be worth that extra quid or two to you and the organizer ensures that there's a good few folks to get the dancing going right from the off. The £2 card charge is only a one off and once registered you qualify for several FREE freestyle offers that you get through email to tempt you to visit other Ceroc venues. It is a tough market and there rarely used to be any Free freestyles or reduced tickets about. Now, if you are that concerned about cost, there's usually some offer available if you are prepared to travel for it. Personally, I applaud the Ceroc Fever and Ceroc Live folks for offering these incentives.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Personally I feel these kind of Ceroc 'incentives and savings' are just the sort of 'savings' we get from the government. They are made in such a way that few people qualify for them.


I give up! Sorry, but that statement is complete nonsense and just another example of Qdos having a side swipe at Ceroc. I am sure that plenty of people appreciate what we are trying to do in these tough economic times and it is unbelievable that you can find fault in it.

SJ has pretty much answered the membership card arguement, but just to add that we are required to operate as a private membership organisation (like gyms, sports clubs etc) and therefore the card is proof that we do this. I really cannot understand the issue with this, and as you say repeatedly on this forum Qdos, there are plenty of other choices to keep you happy. New people do pay a £2 one off membership charge but then can get their first 6 classes for £3.50 each - what is wrong with that? Finally, we do not charge any membership fee to dancers who have not been to Ceroc before and come to one of our freestyles. As far as I see it, there are plenty of offers and they are pretty much open to everyone. It is your choice if you use them or not, but to criticise them here is something I cannot fathom.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could be wrong, but I think Bramshaw are running a 'bring one get one free' offer too. If you bring a complete newbie along on the night, you get in free yourself, and if they take up the first night offer that's a pretty economical weeks dancing!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 1:44 pm    Post subject: Trying to keep happiness happening Reply with quote

Very Happy The THING runs three nights at the moment and we have always put the customer first and there needs. At this moment in time i believe rewarding the people that have supported our nights is really important, this is not a hand out this is our way of saying a big thank you.
hi qdos i don't think we have properly met but thank you for your kind word, support and thank you dizzydancer for pointing out most of our on going offers. i think we all try to give the best quality nights we can and make every area of our events great. the problem you find sometimes is people have offers on but you don't seem to hear about them Rolling Eyes so the hardest thing to do is, get the message across. "LOVE SOUTHERN JIVE FORUM"
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Qdos, I hate to say it but you really do come across as somebody with a totally closed mind as far as Ceroc are concerned. You appear to take every opportunity to say what an awful organisation they are, and harp on about how little they care for their customers. The way that you persistently paint them in a bad light, whilst bowing down and paying homage to the likes of The Thing and Jive 'n' Kickin, would lead anybody reading your posts to assume that you must have a vested interest in advertising their organisations!

Can you not see that the way that you constantly condemn anything positive that anybody else points out about Ceroc ,only serves to portray you as a bigoted and prejudiced man? You are not doing yourself any favours!

My husband and I take full advantage of the 10 tickets for £60 scheme that Ceroc offer. As we are on the Ceroc mailing list, we frequently receive free entry offers to various freestyle nights....We are also on the mailing lists for The Thing and for Red Hot Rhythm but, to date, have never received such an offer from either of them!

Nobody is saying that you have to like Ceroc nights, or that you should support any of their events. Okay, so Ceroc is not for you, but please enlighten me, why do you feel the need to knock every effort that they make?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Couldn't agree with you more Nicky. QDOS, what ever you think or feel about Ceroc as a whole, if you want value then £6 a night (10 for £60) is a bargain for a Ceroc Night up in South Central.

Down here the cost is much less. The average mid-week entry charge is more like the £4 that Olly was paying when he started in London in 1991.

So, at Le Jive we charge £4 a night and £5 for a freestyle. The offers we currently run is one for the new beginner which is basically the same thing as what Ceroc Fever do (6 nights for halve price - that means only £2 a night...! When was the last time any of you went along for only £2..!!!) And one for the loyal - called Le Jive Gold - where they pay a fixed amount per month and gain entry to ALL Le Jive events.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry if I upset anyone but I did say "personally"

You all know that I tend to like the upbeat faster style of music and I just find my nights far more enjoyable at other venues whilst at the former that I attended for many years I found latterly I really didn't enjoy them at all and have walked out on several occasions. This is about value for money and I just find I get better value for money elsewhere and learn more elsewhere. I have however found some of that organiastions nights to be fun and consequently value for money before you all jump on me again LOL

I like to see real incentives with no strings attached rather than the ones where you have to fork out £50 odd to be slightly better off or get stung at the beginning and have to go several times to break even on your money. Let's be honest some of these 'rewards' are there for the organisers and not really for the customers.

Of course there was a freebie the other day but that was for other reasons.

Sorry guys I just don't go for these 'rewards' and it just happens that I feel that the ones from particular organisations don't tend to be what they claim to be. I'll say the same about supermarkets and politicians, I'm really not prejudiced. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nicky thanks for questioning my motives so to speak but I can assure you I have not vested interest in any of the organisations who run any dance nights at all. I just like to enjoy myself dancing with friendly people to good music and enjoying my time with them.

Value for money is measured against enjoyment factor for me. I have enjoyed some nights at Ceroc and I have said so. It just happens that I've never yet had a bad night at the other venues, but if I do I'll let you know and show you I'm not biased Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TeeDee wrote:

So, at Le Jive we charge £4 a night and £5 for a freestyle. The offers we currently run is one for the new beginner which is basically the same thing as what Ceroc Fever do (6 nights for halve price - that means only £2 a night...! When was the last time any of you went along for only £2..!!!) And one for the loyal - called Le Jive Gold - where they pay a fixed amount per month and gain entry to ALL Le Jive events.


Now that is good value for money what ever the music is like! Shame I don't still live in the West Country definitely worth popping by to see what you're about and from what you post on here it's clear you do listen to people
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is not as black & white as some people seem to think. There is so much not being considered here.

Local venue costs range from £50 to £250 plus per night and hall fees are still increasing.
Staffing levels and costs are different for each organiser.
Believe it or not, some of the smaller organisers make more profit per night than bigger organisers.
Some organiser earn their living from what they do, for others it is a side line.
etc, etc....

There have been lots of competitive offers including free nights over the last couple of years. It even gets to the point where people won’t go unless there is an offer on.

Those that make their living from the dance business need to make a reasonable profit or fold. I know of at least 3 good organisers that have given up after many years simply because there are too many completive offers and dwindling profits over the last 2 years.

qdos wrote:
Let's be honest some of these 'rewards' are there for the organisers and not really for the customers.

It is only natural and sound business sense that tries to ensure a win win situation with any offers given.

Freestyles in the London area tend to be around £10 these days, so I don’t think we have it too bad down here.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Qdos wrote:
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Value for money is measured against enjoyment factor for me.


Totally agree with you qdos.....I can buy 2 or 3 cheap packets of Cornflakes for the same money as one packet of Kellogg's Cornflakes, but they simply dont taste as good to me. So I prefer to pay more!...Its whats known as a false economy.... There is a cheap local venue within easy walking distance of my house, but I never go there. I didnt find the people there very friendly and I dont enjoy the music. Cheap or not, I would consider it a complete waste of money.


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I've never yet had a bad night at the other venues, but if I do I'll let you know and show you I'm not biased


Lol... Likewise, I will try to get to one of the freestyles run by the Thing, just to show a certain other "forumite" that I am most definately not a member of "the Ceroc Gang", if indeed there is such a thing! Laughing
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