Southern UK Jive

Southern Jiver · Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 2:36 pm Post subject: Define the term "Pure Jive"

Apologies, sugarfoot, while moving your question from Jive Classes to this, more appropriate forum, I managed to delete it. My bad. However, the question has been discussed at http://southernjive.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=53&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15 if you want to follow it there.

Sugarfoot · Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:07 pm Post subject: Re: Define the term "Pure Jive"

Southern Jiver · Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:18 pm Post subject:

You can read the answer to your question here :
http://southernjive.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=53&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30

Sugarfoot · Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:04 pm Post subject:

qdos · Frequent Poster Joined: 17 Feb 2009 Posts: 195

Well for me I really don't care what people call things and to be frank I think there's far too much analysis of dance which totally destroys any enjoyment of it. This happened with the TV shows. A few years ago we had total amateur members of the public getting on the telly to dance and it was fantastic. It brought lots of people into dance Including me because it looked great fun and was a pleasure to watch people genuinely enjoying themselves. Now where are they? it's only Celebrities on there But I have to Say John Sargent was BRILLIANT he got my vote as he was what it's about it's about having fun!!!!!

Then it all got analysed to hell and back and people got so far up thier backsides (I'm sure you know which TV judges I'm referring to) and lost the enjoyment entirely. The same thing seems to be happening at some of the venues. I think users of this forum know what I'm saying.

When I've mentioned pure Jive I've meant simply jive and not Tango and WCS and all the flowery slow poesy look at me stuff. Now I've got no dance background and I've no intention of having any either. I just enjoy a dance with a partner and having fun. Dance is all about what you get out of music and becoming part of the music if you like and I like fun upbeat entertaining music. I go to rock n roll gigs (often real 50's Rock n Roll such as The Rockers Reunion at Reading for example) and I like anything from Jean Michelle Jarre to U2 and the Stranglers I also like OMD and Ultravox but I DON'T like Spandau Ballet or Jazz and I run a mile from Hip hop and Rap

So what I'm saying is that to me Jive is about having fun and enjoying letting go and not being restrained and stylised. Actually I try not to let go of my partner if I wanted to do that I'd go to a Disco Wink

Sugarfoot · Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:08 pm Post subject:

qdos · Frequent Poster Joined: 17 Feb 2009 Posts: 195

Sugarfoot · Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:36 am Post subject:

qdos.

Why is it that no matter what topic or thread, you seem to use it to rant about how you have left the Ceroc venues to find great alternatives?

Whilst I appreciate that you feel strongly about this, it is getting more than a bit repetitive and boring. More importantly it constantly adds a negative tone to the thread and stops others from wanting to get involved. I hope you don?t repeat moves like that. Mad

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Happy Camper · Newbie Joined: 06 Feb 2009 Posts: 15

sugarfoot, i have received an email from SJ warning me to watch my posts as apparently there is a risk of me being offensive. So, i will politely ask you to refrain from posting comments in the Jive part of the forum that are designed to antagonise Jivers while pushing your own brand of dancing. i see SJ has made you a moderator of the "Other Dances" section and that is fine as long as you can contain yourself and avoid preaching your gospel in the other parts of the forum. There's nothing wrong with open discussion but you are already aware that most people come here because of Jive rather than anything else. Please respect that.

qdos · Frequent Poster Joined: 17 Feb 2009 Posts: 195

Hooray! Thank you Happy Camper.

I know there's others who also agree too, as we've talked at the various Jive events we go to about this.

Several people posted elsewhere saying that they did not think there should be posts in a Jive Forum for other dance styles. I was one who said "Why not?" but I'm beginning to regret having said that as it seems Sugarfoot is hell bent on converting us all no matter how much we say thanks but no thanks.[This sentence was deleted as it might cause offence - Admin]

countryboy · Newbie Joined: 01 Apr 2009 Posts: 2

Good for you HAPPY CAMPER. Sugar Foot is getting far too big for his boots. It's time someone told him where to get off. Keep up the good work.

DJ Andy · Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:56 am Post subject:

The title of this thread is 'Define Pure Jive'.
qdos, Happy Camper, and country boy...how about actually attempting to answer the question, rather than make negative comments unrelated to the subject matter? Confused

qdos · Frequent Poster Joined: 17 Feb 2009 Posts: 195

DJ Andy · Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 11:11 am Post subject:

True you said that Jive wasn't Tango or WCS and it was fun....well that's a start. Laughing

I was of course referring to the negative comments made in the 3 posts above mine.

Sugarfoot · Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 11:20 am Post subject:

Thanks DJ Andy…I am glad someone feels same.

In an attempt to get this back on topic, maybe it would be helpful to define the beginner moves that each organisation uses. If there are more similarities than differences, this may define the backbone of MJ. I think it is at the intermediate and advanced stage that it becomes harder to define and more cross pollinating occurs relative to a teacher’s experience. Maybe those who teach MJ and Ceroc can help with this.

Ever hopeful Rolling Eyes

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